To put it simply..1..there are gurus who are the Self and beyond the mind....they are real Sadgurus and Muktas.

To put it simply..1..there are gurus who are the Self and beyond the mind....they are real Sadgurus and Muktas.
2 All the rest who are unrealised are in the mind and can only talk in the mind...and the mind is the problem so how can somebody drowning in the ocean of mind help you from drowning in it?


Even if you take the life-force as god itself, the working principle is the life force . The consciousness is merely the witnessing process..Nisargadatta Maharaj...


When you are in a position to observe consciousness you are out of consciousness . Then you are what we call the 'awareness state'. the vijnana or jnana state.Niz.


NB. This is of course Sakti/Siva two sides to the same coin,,,