Animal Moksha.

Animal Moksha.

Namaste S-ji,

I must take you to task for your opinions being so humancentric in
the universe. Humans are perhaps not the apex of the pyramid, what
happens say in 50-100 years when there is no population on the
planet?

In the first place you say animals only operate on vasanas whilst
humans have will, whatever that it is. Is it desire? If so then
animals have it also. Humans mostly operate on vasanas as well, we
get them from the same place the animals do--previous lifetimes.

In fact RAMANA MAHARSHI SAYS that everything is predetermined, even
dropping a paper on the floor, there is no time anyway. so
everything the animal and the human do is actually previous vasanas.

The fact that we are 98.5% Genetically Chimp hardly separates us
from the animals. We have a larger hard drive or brain that's all.

The concession I will make to you is that in this illusion/delusion
the human desire or ego is much more developed than in most animals.

However I was reading a story yesterday where a hippo rescued a baby
antelope in its jaws, from crocodiles and placed it back on the bank
of the river with its mother. Animals display many acts of
selflessness and Daya compassion, which are hardly vasanas in the
accepted animal way.

Just proves again that without Daya or compassion all the other
steps to liberation or null and void. Who am I?..

In the last resort animals have one ability which is much more
evident in them than in humans and that is 'Love' or Sakti, and as
God is Love and Love is God, where goes the animal and the human.
One doesn't have to be human to become liberated. Even the
sadhana 'Who am I'? results in the answer -The Sakti/Love Energy--at
the Saguna Level........To wrap up I see no diference between human
animal and animal...all is one...............ONS...Tony.


First of all I got my info on depopulation from scientists and
particularly lovelock.

http://www.axcessnews.com/modules/wfsection/article.php?
articleid=8329

Most say there is a ten year opportunity, Lovelock seem to discount
that. This has spiritual ramifications, for there will be less
bodies for the opportunity to attain moksha.

Secondly with regard to will animals vasanas etc.

There is no difference between a human animal and an animal except
in the development of the vijnamayakosa to certain degrees. Many
humans have IQs of less than 100, and worse. Many animals get close
to 80 or even more IQ.

Animals due to a lack of a fully developed ego have more compassion
and Sakti than humans do, in many circumstances. An animal whose
love is developed enough to become Love has achieved what a human
genius has missed in his intellectual merry go round of mind.

Let us not assume that a human mind is required to achieve moksha.
There are only two requisites for moksha...1. Realise we never were
un-liberated....Who am I?...and 2. Become Love for love is 'God'
and 'God' is love.....an animal can do this.....Who am I?. or as
Nisargadatta says we are all essentially Praneaswara.....ONS..Tony.





Subject: Fwd: [Sri Ramakrishna] Animals and Moksha.


Dear Friends,

This subject reminds me of a cow, Lakshmi, in Sri Ramana Maharshi's
Ashram. The saint was particularly fond of the cow and when the
animal was in its death throes, he held its head on his lap and
guided the soul to liberation. This was in the presence of many
devotees.

In Hinduism we find all Gods having an animal escort. Interestingly
near Siva temples we find the presence of bulls and snakes, in
tantric pithas we have dogs and near Ram temples we inevitably have
monkeys.

We know from the Jataka tales that Lord Buddha had to pass through
many animal lives as well.

In Orissa we have many substantiated tales of animal devotees. In
front of the Jagannath temple at Puri, there used to reside a
majestic bull which took no food except the Mahaprasad of Lord
Jagannath. Devotees who knew the peculiarities of that bull
(including myself) used to offer it pranam after coming out of the
temple which the bull used to graciously accept with a nod of the
head. When this bull died the people of Puri gave it a human funeral
and all rites fit for a sincere devotee were performed.

There is a tantric temple within the Jagannath temple premises. As
non vegetarian prasad is not allowed within the temple, the prasad
ceremony here is performed outside one of the gates of the temple.
Just as the ceremony ends a single dog appears and partakes of the
prasad. No other dog dares disturb this particular dog. This routine
has continued since centuries without a break.

Near Bhubaneswar a monkey used to regularly visit a hanuman temple.
It used to take bath in a nearby tank and sit with folded hands
before the deity. Whatever prasad the devotees gave it used to
accumulate in a corner and used to feed on it only after the deity
was offered its prasad. Needless to say this monkey too got a
funeral befitting a human devotee.

There is a vaishnav math, Radha Govinda Math, near Cuttack in
Orissa. A dog used to reside in the temple premises and used to also
attend the evening religious discourses. The founder of the math
used to make sure that the dog never missed a discourse, claiming
that the dog was a devotee and was going through an animal life.
When the dog died its funeral rites were performed and brahmins were
invited to the feast. The brahmins felt insulted and refused.
However the math went ahead with the feast which was attended by
thousands of dogs who seemed to appear out of nowhere, partook of
the feast in a very disciplined manner and vanished after the feast.
There is a devotee of this math, whom the math believes to be the
reincarnation of the founder vaishnav. His name is Lokenath Baba and
he still lives. He plays the flute very beautifully and dogs and
cows gather around to listen to the flute. I did not believe this
till I saw it with my own eyes. It is from this Baba that I learnt
about
many secret rites performed in the Jagannath temple.

In South India we have the Pak****eertha where two pigeons appear
every evening to partake of the prasad. They seem to come from a
very long distance. In North India we have a temple dedicated to
rats. Inspite of the teeming rat population in the temple and the
town, there has never been a single case of rat plague anywhere even
near the town.

One also wonders what happened to Kalia, the favourite dog of
Mahapurush Maharaj; the favourite cow of Raja Maharaj at Belur Math
and also the many animal devotees that Swamiji had acquired during
his last days. One also wonders what happened to the cat that Sri
Ramakrishna fed while performing Puja at the Kali Temple of
Dakshineswar.

India abounds in such things and sometimes we feel that there is no
distinct line between the human and animal devotees of the Lord.

Regards,






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