SAMADHI ALONE CAN REVEAL THE TRUTH....Sri Ramana Maharshi.

SAMADHI ALONE CAN REVEAL THE TRUTH....Sri Ramana Maharshi...p 159. 'Be as you are'. NB.There are different levels of Samahi with and without effort culminating in Moksha or Sahaja Nirvikalpa Samadhi...It is the going up and coming down into or through consciousness where it is revealed as samadhi is beyond consciousness and mind............................. · NirVikalpa anyway...NB Vedanta Samadhis doesn't equate with the Buddhist Samadhi's or 'States', exactly.

Ramana says when one begins to die

1. It never happened at all...........ajativada see my wikipedia entry. 2. Within illusion there is an ego and at death of the body the attributes, samskaras and memories provide the energy for a new body, any body. 3,Ramana says when one begins to die, hard breathing sets in and that means one has become unconscious of the dying body. The mind at once takes hold of another body and goes back and forth like a dream,violent breaths mean the ego or mind is coming back to the old body...This transitional state is like a dream sequence until the transition is complete. 4. Ramana says there is always a body. I suppose in any subtle plane or dimension. This period is a strange period as many have a second death where they remain in the vital body for a few days before leaving that shell and moving on..Presumably they have made the transition and are obe....

The body consists of the physical, subtle and causal

The body consists of the physical, subtle and causal...They are all part and parcel and when the physical dies the others remain....So when moody and others talk about life after death.........there is no death just dissolution of the physical form. The vital form, which looks like the physical drops in the 'second death' after a few days and then the old personality is gone and what moves on is a cloud of attributes, tendencies and memories (karma)...That it the energy for a new body any type.............Tony

Also for ordinary people that die---grieving doesn't help them it binds them.

My mother died in dementia on the 20th June in Ireland. I am not sad as she is better off than being imprisoned in a body with no mind to speak of...I am not wallowing in grief as that is attachment and self indulgence...I have no power over any action in this delusion...human love is only attachment not real love...it is just pollyanna and ego for who is it that grieves and over what? ...There is only the life-force/consciousness or siva/sakti which we all are...my mother has not gone anywhere............my mother is what i called that body...The only power i have is the power to have an opinon not change the action....People grieve because it is about THEIR LOSS THEIR ATTACHMENT NOT THE OBJECT OF LOSS...suggest reading 'I am that' by Nisargadatta Maharaj.... Also for ordinary people that die---grieving doesn't help them it binds them..After a person 'dies' the conscious mind is in the vital body for usually a few days. This body is part of the subtle and looks like the person. A demented person is no longer demented in this form so it is better to try and think about them and talk to them for the last time instead of wasting time on selfish indulgences like grief. My mother came and visited me as all my relatives seem to....and we had a short 'loving and mutually forgiving' conversation. I did not try to find her like I did her sister my aunt and found the shell of vital body as she had gone through the second death and moved on............I talked to my father in the same way when he was in the Bardo and didn't know where he was........SO DO NOT WALLOW IN GRIEF HAVE A LAST CLEAR CONVERSATION,,,,TONY.

Do not wast time in self indulgent grief

My mother died in dementia on the 20th June in Ireland. I am not sad as she is better off than being imprisoned in a body with no mind to speak of...I am not wallowing in grief as that is attachment and self indulgence...I have no power over any action in this delusion...human love is only attachment not real love...it is just pollyanna and ego for who is it that grieves and over what? ...There is only the life-force/consciousness or siva/sakti which we all are...my mother has not gone anywhere............my mother is what i called that body...The only power i have is the power to have an opinon not change the action....People grieve because it is about THEIR LOSS THEIR ATTACHMENT NOT THE OBJECT OF LOSS...suggest reading 'I am that' by Nisargadatta Maharaj.... Also for ordinary people that die---grieving doesn't help them it binds them..After a person 'dies' the conscious mind is in the vital body for usually a few days. This body is part of the subtle and looks like the person. A demented person is no longer demented in this form so it is better to try and think about them and talk to them for the last time instead of wasting time on selfish indulgences like grief. My mother came and visited me as all my relatives seem to....and we had a short 'loving and mutually forgiving' conversation. I did not try to find her like I did her sister my aunt and found the shell of vital body as she had gone through the second death and moved on............I talked to my father in the same way when he was in the Bardo and didn't know where he was........SO DO NOT WALLOW IN GRIEF HAVE A LAST CLEAR CONVERSATION,,,,TONY. NIZ says that there is no reincarnation as such....but in the unrealised there is a cloud of dreams of tendencies, attributes and memories(karma), that provide the energy for a new body.................hence a new personality etc Do not touch me as I have not yet ascended to my Father...Jesus outside the tomb to the Mary Magdalene..This is the final death experience req'd of all muktas...........